
Bothering the Band – Lino Trujillo
Hi folks! (Stereotypical Radio Voice) Big Buynak here, back with another skanking ska edition of Bothering the Band, and in the studio we have the one-and-only Lino Trujillo of Hepcat. Just like his bandmate Greg Narvas, Lino is leaning in lefty, pouring his heartfelt thoughts into these sublimely silly questions, showing his patience as a human, father, artist, husband and musician, and one lucky sonofabitch. Personally, I am honored and also lucky to be on the raucous radio with him right now, because Hepcat was such a big influence to me as a ska kid…so this is a dream come true. Dance widā me and Lino!
1. Whatās the last thing you dropped?
Iām pretty clumsy, so I have a habit of dropping things throughout the day. I just dropped a tool a couple of minutes ago, and my lower back is in a lot of pain this morning, so I left the tool on my garage floor, and decided to work on that project later. #oldmanlifehacks
2. Who gets punched first, Skinheads or Mods?
When you say āpunched in the faceā, do you mean āa big hugā? Because if so, they both equally deserve to get punched in the face. Repeatedly. Punch them in the face, to show them how much theyāre loved. I punch my kids in the face all the time, except my daughter gets embarrassed now, when I do it in front of her friends. My son is really lovable, and heāll sometimes punch me (big hug) in the face first. My wife tells me I donāt punch her in the face enough! But every now and then, when sheās cooking or doing something, Iāll sneak up behind her, and punch her right in the face. It seems to work, our 22nd wedding anniversary was 9/5/98. True story.
3. Would you rather your kids go to Harvard or play for the LA Kings?
Well, I have three kids, and my first is already hitting her late twenties. Sheās not a hockey fan, and lives a pretty Bohemian lifestyle, so I donāt see her being interested in either of those choices. My younger daughter is the second biggest Kings fan in the family, and it would be awesome to see her as the first woman in the NHL, but sheās a singer/performer. Thatās her passion. I wouldnāt be at all surprised to see her singing the national anthem at a Kings game in the not so distant future. My son (the youngest) on the other hand, heās the scholar of the family. Heās in 7th grade honors, and heās always trying to hustle a dollar, or plead his case for a Lego set. Harvard Law for sure. But heās had his heart set on Cal Arts for some time now, and really, all I want is for my kids to be happy.
4. What is one song you canāt stand but like the ska cover?
This is a tough one. Iāve racked my brain, and the only thing I can think of, is āWhatās New Pussycat?ā. The Tom Jones original is pretty lame, while the Wailers version sounds completely different, and gives the song a different feel. Less carnival, more groovy. I find it fascinating how much an arrangement can change my appreciation for a song, and is probably why arranging is my favorite part of the songwriting process. One of my favorite songs is āFly Me To The Moonā by Sunny and the Sunliners. I donāt care for the swingy, poppy arrangements popularized by singers like Tony Bennett, and Frank Sinatra, but the arrangement by the Sunliners is much darker and soulful, with great Texas vocal harmonies. Completely changes the feel of the song, and really gives me more of an appreciation for the overall song. Now if weāre talking ska covers, thatās a different story. Not really a cover of an original, but I always preferred the Specials live version over the Skatalites version of āGuns Of Navaroneā. Iām sure thereās a probably a couple cries of āHeresy!ā by close-minded people reading this, but it is what it is. The Specials are one of the greatest bands ever, and their version just makes you want to move.
5. True or false: Your guitar has cut you?
Tralse. I canāt recall ever cutting myself on my guitar, but Iāve poked myself and bled many times on the strings poking out of the tuners. I built my last guitar, so I donāt know, maybe I got cut in the process? I got the shit shocked out of me (figuratively thank God), at a Hepcat rehearsal once. I had a 100 amp Amplifier that had ground issues, and I went to grab a mic while my other hand was on the guitar neck holding the strings, so my body became the missing part of the circuit. It knocked me flat on my back like I was getting tased, but I somehow kicked the mic stand, microphone and all, out of my hand. I screamed like a little girl in the process. Thereās a scene in the movie āThe Commitmentsā that was eerily similar, but without the embarrassing shriek. This was an early Hepcat practice (1990 or so), and wouldnāt have been so humiliating, were it not for the fact that we recorded EVERY rehearsal. Somewhere out there, thereās a tape of Hepcat rehearsal chatter, interrupted by what can only be described as that long, drawn out scream R2D2 makes when the action picks up in Star Wars movies. Iām laughing about it now, but I was pissed back then. I was lying on my back, on the floor, thinking I had just been on the brink of death(probably wasnāt), my muscles were already extremely stiff and sore, and the band were laughing their asses off, just staring at me. In their defense, they had no idea what had just happened to me, and thought I was just being a fool. The incident completely fried a guitar pedal that I was using at the time, and looking back, that mightāve been what actually broke the circuit, not the laying on my back, screaming soprano, and kicking heroics that my brain wants to remember.
6. Whatās the weirdest thing in your fridge?
A bag full of coconut oil, and decarboxylated flower. Folk medicine.
7. Have you ever peed at a urinal next to a celebrity?
Iām sure I have, although I canāt recall an instance. I once rode an elevator with Chuck Berry, just us two, which was pretty surreal. This was around ā90 or ā91, and wouldāve been mind-blowingly surreal had I known about his home videos back then. He was pretty tall, wearing, some tight assed Wrangler type, rust colored, polyester pants, with matching, tucked in disco shirt, long, bony, gold ring clad fingers, with slicked back, side-burned, wavy hair, and a pencil mustache to top off the whole look. He looked intense, like he was going to get some money owed to him. That image of him is burned into my brain, and I just glanced over so as not to seem like I was star struck. I ended up seeing him perform live a few years later, and it was one of the worst/greatest performances Iāve ever seen, but thatās a story for another time. Speaking of surreal celebrity experiences, Hepcat played the Hollywood House of Blues before it opened itās doors to the public, for a pre-grand opening party, and it was full of celebrities. Seriously, I recognized at least half of the faces there, and the club was packed. And these were some A list celebrities like Warren Beatty and Rod Stewart. We were opening for blues legend, Taj Mahal, and apparently, he grew up with a Jamaican stepfather, and is a huge Ska and Rocksteady fan. He geeked hard over our band, and serenaded some Prince Buster to me backstage, with his guitar. I watched Dan Aykroyd, and Kenny Loggins along with Paul Schaefer, among other familiar faces, skanking in the front row, while Jim Brown (football) was standing off to the side bouncing his head while we played. The show wasnāt open to the public, and I never felt so out of place in my life while walking around the club, but it was really cool seeing these people enjoy our music. And eventually, at the end of the night we all go back to our own lives, and we all pee yellow. Amirite?
8. The song āLean On Meā or the movie āStand By Meā?
Stand By Me, and I stand by that opinion. Donāt get it twisted, I dig Bill Withers (RIP), but āLean On Meā isnāt one of my favorites of his. āStand By Meā on the other hand, is one of, if not the best Stephen King adaptation. And that includes āThe Shiningā, āDolores Claiborneā, and āShawshank Redemptionā among some other really good flicks. I still enjoy watching it occasionally if itās on the tv. Iād probably choose āStand By Meā the song over āLean On Meā the movie too. I caught a girl in high school jokingly singing āLino on Meā to her friends in school, and it was extremely awkward, and embarrassing for the both of us, because we were friends, and even though I knew she liked me like that, she never let it be known, and the feelings werenāt mutual. So maybe thatās why that song hits me the wrong way. We werenāt really friends after that.
9. Where did you lose your virginity?
At the Marriott Suites in Buena Park, on my wedding night, naturally. A true gentleman never kisses and tells.
10. When is the last time you skanked?
Iām ashamed to admit I canāt remember the last time I skanked. Itās been a while. Iām not that old, but my body has taken a lot of abuse over the years because I spent most of my adulthood working in construction, and arthritis and other joint issues make me feel older than I am. Iāll get down to some Rocksteady or Reggae if Iām watching a group play, but the thought of actually skanking to some ska hurts my body. But I will move to music. The last time I danced to a group was in January. The Capsouls were playing at Boomerās in Lakewood, for a show commemorating the life of local Ska legend, Jason Lawless, and I canāt help but dance to that group when they play.

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